Reach Into Somebody and Grab Their Organs

This broadcast features segments of a prerecorded conversation with fellow radio producers, Chelsea, Emily, and Lilia. We go in depth about the intense and therapeutic process of making "This Shadow" for KCRW's 24 Hour Radio Race. Yes, we're happy to have won an honorable mention, but it was so much more than that.

Listen to "This Shadow" and the other Radio Race winners here:

Find Chelsea Kigano at

Find Emily Shaw at and on Twitter @emilyshawcreates

Find Lilia Vega on Twitter @vivalvega and @djmamacoco


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  2. Awake on a Train - 2019 Remaster by Mum on Yesterday Was Dramatic - Today is Ok (20th Year Anniversary Addition (Morr Music)
  3. Winners by LIPTALK on DAYS (Northern Spy)
  4. Take It Back feat Arca, Joba & Justine Skye by Blood Orange on Angel's Pulse (Domino)
  5. New Love Cassette by Angel Olsen on All Mirrors (Jagjaguwar)
  6. This Mess We're In by PJ Harvey, Thom Yorke on Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea (Universal Island Records)